In my last post I listed 13 biblical passages that prescribe stoning as a punishment for various crimes. (The Catholic Encyclopedia says there are 18. Did I miss some? If so let me know so I can add another verse to the Everybody must get stoned song.) Here's a summary.
| 1. | For touching Mount Sinai | Exodus 19:13 |
| 2. | For taking "accursed things" | Joshua 7:1-26 |
| 3. | For cursing or blaspheming | Leviticus 24:16 |
| 4. | For adultery (including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough) | Deuteronomy 22:23-24 |
| 5. | For animals (like an ox that gores a human) | Exodus 21:28 |
| 6. | For a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night | Deuteronomy 22:13-21 |
| 7. | For worshipping other gods | Deuteronomy 17:2-5 |
| 8. | For preaching the wrong religion | Deuteronomy 13:5-10 |
| 9. | For disobeying parents | Deuteronomy 21:18-21 |
| 10. | For witches and wizards | Leviticus 20:27 |
| 11. | For giving your children to Molech | Leviticus 20:2 |
| 12. | For breaking the Sabbath | Numbers 15:32-56 |
| 13. | For cursing the king | 1 Kings 21:10 |
The answer is zero. The Quran does not mention stoning as a punishment for any crime.
So what gives, then? Why is stoning a fairly common punishment in Islamic countries, but rare or nonexistent in Christian or Jewish ones?
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Beats me. But that's a good point. Religion is weird.
its certainly strange, I must say.
Granted, I must say I'm thankful jews don't go around stoning those of other religions... but its certainly puzzling.
Isn't the Koran an offshoot of the OT and NT? Muslims just use what appeals to them from those bibles.
Steve Wells' question is based on a false assumption, namely that stoning is a fairly common punishment in Islamic countries.
I would challenge Steve Wells to post some hard evidence that infliction of death by stoning is a common official practice in many Islamic countries, ie something done by the legal authorities and not just by lynch mobs. In other words, give us some statistics of the number of executions carried out by stoning.
I know for a fact that in practically all states with a Muslim population, the criminal law is based on European models, either British or the Code Napoleon, and that Muslim religious law is only used in civil cases eg matters relating to marriage, divorce, inheritance etc (in much the same way as in the State of the Jewish People civil law is administered by the religious authorities of the different communities).
Michael Mills,
So stoning is not a fairly common form of punishment in Islamic countries? Well, it is in Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Nigeria.
Do you know of any non-muslim countries that stone people to death?
Steve,
Stoning is prescribed in the hadith, because apparently Mohammed was very fond of it. It's one of the few (possibly only) examples of a hadith abrogating a verse from actually Qur'an.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning_to_Death_in_Islam
Bible or Quran? "Is Anything From God - Really?" "Can You Help Me?"
http://bibleislam.com/bible_vs_quran.php
The answer is that humankind (I would say "men") are corrupt and they go about doing all sorts of disgusting acts against their own kind, all in the name of Allah (swt) for whom they have no authority to speak.
First thank you Ginasong for sharing the gospel with these misguided individuals. You guys are saying "what kindof God would stone people?"... I have a different question for you- What kind of God would forgive such sinful wicked wretched creatures as us "while we were yet sinners" & offer his own son for a sacrifice for us? You are all in rebellion with your creator- the very one who created you, loves you and died for you. If I were God and thank him that I'm not because I would have stoned a lot more people. You're acting as if they didn't deserve it and God has wronged them in some way. No. What we don't deserve is his mercy grace forgiveness love kindness and dieing to atone for our sins against him. Think about it... Why are you so angry with God?
Being a Muslim, I will still say that stoning is mentioned in the Quran and it is not just a combination from the OT and NT. It is done for the adulterers and only in that circumstance. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090403121155AAOtliB please read the whole blog...explains a lot. but there is a typo. its not about pre-marital sex its spesifically adultry.
Suraya,
Where is stoning mentioned in the Quran? (I'm not asking for a link here, but for the sura and ayah.)
My sister Suraya is in error and she needs to study her religion. The injunction for stoning the adulterer is found in the ahaadeeth. Islaam has not been borrowed from the OT nor NT. It is a continuation of the pure religion the was practiced by Abraham, Issac and Jacob and Jesus, son of Mary, without the innovations and inclusions of paganistic practices. Steve Wells, I think at one point in your life you claimed to be Muslim?
"It is a continuation of the pure religion the was practiced by Abraham, Issac and Jacob and Jesus"
Really?
1. "Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself"
2. "Allah destroyed the people in Lot 's town with a dreadful rain"
- oh goodness, Yahweh/Allah cannot remember how he got the job done?
3. "Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my partners that you used to believe in?"
- Allah will do this to people who misinterpreted Jesus' message? Perhaps allah should have asked his messenger to clarify the position, being all knowing and omnipotent and all that...
4. "Those in the Garden will drink delicious wine, while those in the Fire will drink boiling water that will tear apart their intestines. "
- Wine on earth is a no-no, in heaven its the big draw card?
5. "Those that Allah drowned in Noah's flood were then tortured forever in the Fire."
- allah hadnt mentioned that he had prepared the fire. Seems kind of immoral to drown people and then burn them forever without giving them advance warning dont you think?
Faith is fiction folks. Cut the crap, drop the delusion and dump dark age superstition, immorality, sexism and wishthinking on the scrap heap where it belongs.
Its immoral not to.
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