06 April 2012

Bad Friday: Greater evil hath no man than this, that he is willing to kill his own son (for any fucking reason).



The three "great" Abrahamic faiths trace their origin to Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son to God. Jews and Christians believe the story told in Genesis 22, in which God tells Abraham to kill his son, Isaac, for him.
God ... said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and .. and offer him there for a burnt offering. (Genesis 22:1)
(Actually God was wrong about the "only son" thing, because Abraham, at the time, had two sons, not one. Abraham had already abandoned his first son, Ishmael, and his mother, Hagar -- with God's consent and blessing. So I guess Isaac was Abraham's only son, at least as far as he and God were concerned.)

God didn't make Abraham do the evil deed, though, substituting a ram instead at the last minute. But it was Abraham's willingness to do it that impressed God so much. Abraham passed the test because he was was willing to kill his son for God.

For his willingness to do the greatest evil any father could ever do, God blessed Abraham and made him the father of all believers.
Because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son ... I will bless thee ... And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. Genesis 22:16
Muslims also honor Abraham for his willingness to slaughter his son, but they believe it was a different son. They believe it was Ishmael, not Isaac, that God told Abraham to kill.




Here's the story from the Quran:
When (his son) was old enough to walk with him, (Abraham) said: O my dear son, I have seen in a dream that I must sacrifice thee. So look, what thinkest thou ? He said: O my father! Do that which thou art commanded. Allah willing, thou shalt find me of the steadfast. Quran 37:102
(Notice, though, that the Quran doesn't actually name the son, so maybe a Muslim could believe that Isaac was the intended victim.)

The important thing, though, is this: Abraham was willing to kill his own son for God, and God rewarded him for it.

And then, of course, there's Jesus.

God supposedly tested himself, just like he did Abraham, only this time he went through with it. He killed his own son for some god-awful reason. I guess it was to keep himself from torturing others for stuff they didn't  do or didn't believe. Or something like that.

Believers call it Good Friday.

7 comments:

Stephen said...

Disgusting.
Steve Weeks

Sean Seal said...

LOL! You miss the point so often. The point is that Abraham had so much faith that God would save his son that he was willing to sacrifice his son. Pretty sure you can't see past your nose buddy. Gain some perspective.

Steve Wells said...

That's not what God said, Sam. God blessed Abraham because he was willing to kill his son.

"Because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son ... I will bless thee. Genesis 22:16

Only an evil God would ask a father to kill his son for him. And only a bad father would be willing to do it.

Me said...

Why would God need to test his faith? God is supposedly all knowing and wouldn't need to test Abraham because he would already know the answer before testing him. Does he expect a different outcome? It's ludicrous.

Stephen said...

Since god is nothing but a fig newton of some peoples' imagination, we don't need to waste time on "what an a$$h0le god is"... and concentrate on the people who made up the whole story. They were truly sick, and so are any who believe it.
Steve Weeks

srizals said...

Steve said, "Notice, though, that the Quran doesn't actually name the son, so maybe a Muslim could believe that Isaac was the intended victim."

Steve, you should read on, it's stated in this verse, a continuity of the verse quoted by you (37:102), his first born was not Isaac. It's as easy as ABC, as A comes before B.

"37:102 When (his son) was old enough to walk with him, (Abraham) said: O my dear son, I have seen in a dream that I must sacrifice thee. So look, what thinkest thou ? He said: O my father! Do that which thou art commanded. Allah willing, thou shalt find me of the steadfast."

The one speaking could not have been Isaac, since he was not born yet as it was told in this verse,

"37:112 And We gave him tidings of the birth of Isaac, a prophet of the righteous."

And you forgot to mention about what it's all about. It is a test, the test of faith in God that does not require a human sacrifice, ever. A benchmark set by Abraham that no man should need to sacrifice his son or any man for that matter in order to please God.

This is what is missing in your understanding of the story, Steve.

"But as soon as the two had surrendered themselves to [what they thought to be] the will of God, and [Abraham] had laid him down on his face, (103)

We called out to him: “O Abraham, (104)

thou hast already fulfilled [the purpose of] that dream- vision!” Thus, verily, do We reward the doers of good: (105)

for, behold, all this was indeed a trial, clear in itself. (106)

And We ransomed him with a tremendous sacrifice, (107)

and left him thus to be remembered among later generations: (108)

A Prophecy that has come to past. Abraham is remembered by three Abrahamic faith to this very day.

That is why a religious person would never abort his or her baby. Abraham didn't do it, why should he/she be doing it for the sake of pleasing him/herself?

Anyway, what happened to your post entitled, Muslims and toilet manners, I think. The question of eating with your right hand and dealing with fecal matter with your left hand if I recalled correctly. I seem can't find it anymore. I'm sure it's stuck in here somewhere.

Care to enlighten me, Steve? Thanks.

Steve Wells said...

Here's a link to the "Islam: It's mostly about going to the bathroom" post.