12 January 2013

Mosiah 14: A Complete Waste of a Golden Plate

In the last chapter, Mosiah 13, Abinadi was busy lecturing Noah and his priests about the 10 Commandments.  Without explanation, he starts quoting his favorite book of the bible, Isaiah (chapter 53).
I would call it plagiarism, but he did cite his source.
Yea, even doth not Isaiah say: Who hath believed our report, and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? 4.1
Mosiah must have had a pretty good memory, though, to directly quote the King James Version of the Bible (Which wouldn't be translated for another 1,700+ years...)

So after this speech was written on plates, Joseph Smith did a pretty good job translating it, since it is a word-for-word duplicate of the King James Version of Isaiah 53.  (Not to mention the fact that the translators of the KJV were 100% accurate).  To translate so accurately, Joseph Smith must have had a pretty good knowledge of reformed Egyptian.  I don't know that much about it, mainly because it doesn't exist.

Here's the rest of Mosiah 14 (or Isaiah 53) in case anyone out there is interested or suffering from insomnia and needs to be put to sleep.
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of dry ground; he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him there is no beauty that we should desire him.
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 14.3 
Surely he has borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows; yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 14:4
But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 14:5
All we, like sheep, have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquities of us all. 14:6
He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb so he opened not his mouth. 14:7
He was taken from prison and from judgment; and who shall declare his generation? For he was cut off out of the land of the living; for the transgressions of my people was he stricken. 14:8
And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no evil, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 14:9
Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief; when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. 14:10
He shall see the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied; by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 14:11
Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death; and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bore the sins of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. 14:12

If you made it this far, you might be saying to yourself, "Sounds like he's talking about Jesus!"  Well, you're not the first one.  Christian apologists often claim that Isaiah is talking about Jesus here, but Jewish people think he is actually talking about Israel.

Either way, it seems strangely out of place in the middle of Abinadi's speech.


Stephen said...

And yet they say this is the fastest-growing faith in the US. Barnum was right.

Also, it's clear that JS Bach wrote the lyrics to "The Messiah" from Mosiah, not Isaiah, since the former is so much older. ;-)
Steve weeks

Ben Arkell said...

I find this to be one of the most powerful sections of the Book of Mormon/Bible. I guess you find what you are looking for.

Stephen said...

Ben said...

"I find this to be one of the most powerful sections of the Book of Mormon/Bible. I guess you find what you are looking for."

It's powerful, all right... as a laxative. And, speaking of bullshit, how did this document, supposedly written over 1700 years before the King James bible, contain that bible's exact text?
Steve Weeks

Alex said...

19th century man translating plates into 17th century English.

Seems legit.

Ben Arkell said...


I'm assuming it was copied from the Plates of Brass.

Stephen said...

Ben said...

"I'm assuming it was copied from the Plates of Brass."

Ben, you know what they say about what happens when you assume... (hint: "ass.u.me").

What was copied from the (imaginary) "plates of brass"? The text of the KJV? There's better evidence it was the other way around.
Steve Weeks