20 August 13 update: Since some of you may not have completely understood what Mr. Deity was referring to in the begging segment, I'm including his remarks about that below.
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5:50 "They [Gospel writers] have him [Jesus] claiming to be God which would be a major blasphemy within Judaism at the time"
Which is why they had him crucified.
But in denying his divinity, it is Judaism that is committing the blasphemy, since Moses and all the prophets foretold that God would be manifested in the flesh, which Jesus clearly demonstrated that he was.
All the miracles that were performed by Jesus confirmed that he was indeed the Creator in the flesh, and he had no problem in demonstrating his creative power, which was witnessed by many, like feeding 5000 people, turning water into wine, restoring sight to the blind, healing the sick and raising the dead – all creative acts.
His human nature and body (the flesh), after dying on the cross, returned back to life after three days. Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up” John 2:19 (only his human nature was killed. His divine nature remained intact because it is impossible to kill God)
“…I lay down my life that I may take it again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.” John 10:17, 18. Only God has this power.
Jesus also accepted worship and forgave sins which only God has the authority to do since he is the one we have sinned against.
“That all should honour the Son just as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him.” John 5:23
Satan himself was one of the best witness’s that Jesus was God the Creator, when, at the end of forty days of being tempted by the devil, during which time Jesus ate nothing and was hungry, the devil said to him,
“If [since] you are the Son of God, command this stone to become bread.” But Jesus answered him, saying, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.’” Luke 4:3, 4
This would have been a pointless temptation if Jesus was not the Creator but just an ordinary man who could not turn stones into bread.
In fact, all the devils/demons/evil spirits were subject to his authority and feared him greatly.
…there was a man who had a spirit of an unclean demon. And he cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Let us alone! What have we to do with you, Jesus of Nazareth? Did you come to destroy us? I know you, who you are – the Holy One of God!” But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be quiet, and come out of him!” Luke 4:33-35.
The argument that the Gospels are invalid because the writers were anonymous does not work, because the actual Author is the Holy Spirit.
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God” 2Timothy 3:16
“knowing this first, that no prophesy of Scripture is of any private interpretation; for prophesy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” 2Peter 1:20-21
The whole Bible is the Gospel (the message of the good news of salvation), from beginning to end, related from the perspective of a succession of writers, in the style and language of the time, as they were moved and inspired by the Holy Spirit, the Bible’s one true Author.
6:20 “As good atheists, sceptics and freethinkers…”
"Given their own presuppositions, materialists have not freely arrived at their conclusion that materialism is true, because their conclusion was predetermined by brain chemistry. ...So ...they can’t even help what they believe (including their belief in materialism!). Yet often call themselves ‘freethinkers’, overlooking the glaring irony!"
From an article entitled:
Presuppositions required for science, ‘Christian’ v atheist atrocities, defending the faith/ creation.com
Ahhh... Presuppositional rhetoric. The usual combination of circular reasoning, Ad Hominem attacks, and "poisoning of the wells" so that anything anyone says to demolish these blathering blurtations of intellectual dishonesty actually "PROVES" fundamentalism to be true!
Oh my! How convenient!
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Thought for the Day: "The Jews called. They want their religion back!"
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5:50 "They [Gospel writers] have him [Jesus] claiming to be God which would be a major blasphemy within Judaism at the time"
Which is why they had him crucified.
But in denying his divinity, it is Judaism that is committing the blasphemy, since Moses and all the prophets foretold that God would be manifested in the flesh, which Jesus clearly demonstrated that he was.
All the miracles that were performed by Jesus confirmed that he was indeed the Creator in the flesh, and he had no problem in demonstrating his creative power, which was witnessed by many, like feeding 5000 people, turning water into wine, restoring sight to the blind, healing the sick and raising the dead – all creative acts.
His human nature and body (the flesh), after dying on the cross, returned back to life after three days. Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up” John 2:19 (only his human nature was killed. His divine nature remained intact because it is impossible to kill God)
“…I lay down my life that I may take it again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.” John 10:17, 18. Only God has this power.
Jesus also accepted worship and forgave sins which only God has the authority to do since he is the one we have sinned against.
“That all should honour the Son just as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him.” John 5:23
Satan himself was one of the best witness’s that Jesus was God the Creator, when, at the end of forty days of being tempted by the devil, during which time Jesus ate nothing and was hungry, the devil said to him,
“If [since] you are the Son of God, command this stone to become bread.” But Jesus answered him, saying, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.’” Luke 4:3, 4
This would have been a pointless temptation if Jesus was not the Creator but just an ordinary man who could not turn stones into bread.
In fact, all the devils/demons/evil spirits were subject to his authority and feared him greatly.
…there was a man who had a spirit of an unclean demon. And he cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Let us alone! What have we to do with you, Jesus of Nazareth? Did you come to destroy us? I know you, who you are – the Holy One of God!” But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be quiet, and come out of him!” Luke 4:33-35.
The argument that the Gospels are invalid because the writers were anonymous does not work, because the actual Author is the Holy Spirit.
“All scripture is given by inspiration of God” 2Timothy 3:16
“knowing this first, that no prophesy of Scripture is of any private interpretation; for prophesy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” 2Peter 1:20-21
The whole Bible is the Gospel (the message of the good news of salvation), from beginning to end, related from the perspective of a succession of writers, in the style and language of the time, as they were moved and inspired by the Holy Spirit, the Bible’s one true Author.
logical Bob strikes again !
6:20 “As good atheists, sceptics and freethinkers…”
"Given their own presuppositions, materialists have not freely arrived at their conclusion that materialism is true, because their conclusion was predetermined by brain chemistry. ...So ...they can’t even help what they believe (including their belief in materialism!). Yet often call themselves ‘freethinkers’, overlooking the glaring irony!"
From an article entitled:
Presuppositions required for science, ‘Christian’ v atheist atrocities, defending the faith/ creation.com
"Jesus was temporarily inconvenienced for your sins."
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Steve Weeks
Ahhh... Presuppositional rhetoric. The usual combination of circular reasoning, Ad Hominem attacks, and "poisoning of the wells" so that anything anyone says to demolish these blathering blurtations of intellectual dishonesty actually "PROVES" fundamentalism to be true!
Oh my! How convenient!
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Thought for the Day: "The Jews called. They want their religion back!"
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HisGalHess@yahoo.com
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